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Renunciation/Affirmation - A Vaisnava-Christian Dialogue14-15 April 2000 - Rockwood Manor, Potomac, Maryland, USA
 
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Conference Reports -
Spirit in the World II:
Renunciation/Affirmation -
A Vaisnava-Christian Dialogue14-15 April 2000
Rockwood Manor, Potomac, Maryland, USA
 
Gerald Carney

This meeting, which took place on April 14th and 15th, was the third in a continuing series of dialogues held in the Washington D.C. area. Participants included Christians from the Catholic, Episcopalian and Anglican traditions and Vaisnavas from the Gaudiya tradition. Because many of the participants have become friends as well as dialogue partners during the three years of these meetings, we began with a substantial common ground of trust and mutual understanding. Returning to Rockwood Manor for the dialogue was like a homecoming. We gathered on Friday afternoon to continue the theme of the previous year, one that we had agreed we had only begun to explore. We listened to two talks on the call to transform life and service in the Christian and Vaisnava traditions, and we reflected on the implications of this. The texts that served as the basis for these talks were taken from the Bhagavad-gita and the Gospel of John, and had been distributed to the participants in advance. The evening was a time for sharing songs and memories. Saturday morning was an opportunity to share in worship together - an experience that fosters growth of the religious life in these traditions. As friends and companions on a journey, we then took the more daring step of looking at documents from the Vaisnava and Catholic traditions that give direction to the process of dialogue. I say 'daring' because we moved beyond mutual understanding and shared experience to look at the way our traditions encourage and discourage a life of dialogue, 'an opportunity to examine different perspectives in understanding how God interacts with people of other faiths'.

We were warmly welcomed by Anuttama Dasa, who introduced the participants. It is amazing how short the introductions can be when many participants are already trusted friends, and how focused the participants' self-descriptions can be when they share a religious journey. We then turned to the theme of how our religious traditions lead us both to withdraw from attachment to the world and also to encounter the world in loving service.

Radha Dasi reflected on the transformation of renunciation in the Bhagavad-gita, looking especially at Bhagavad-gita 18.49, 12.12, 5.2 and 2.47. She pointed to the 'domestication of renunciation' through the change of consciousness called for in the Gita, the renunciation of the fruits of action in devotional service to the Lord. The transformation of action through the renunciation of its fruits means that surrender to the Absolute includes the carrying out of personal and social responsibilities. Since everything belongs to the Lord, we are called to renounce material attachments and, thus liberated from bondage, to place all our resources at the service of the Lord, in selfless surrender without material desire. She used the analogy of legal agency to describe the devotee as one who acts completely for the Lord. From the perspective of the Bhagavad-gita, liberation from material attachment seems incomplete without the surrender of the self to the Lord in lived service. She illustrated this devotional attitude by the example of Druva Maharaja in Srimad-Bhagavatam and with the devotional poetry of Narottama Dasa Thakura and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura. She concluded, 'The tension between renouncing worldly ties and seeking a closer relationship with God is resolved not by rejecting the world but by understanding its true relationship to God. As we progress in spiritual life, we integrate the disparate parts of ourselves and our world into a coherent whole which resonates with the love of God.'

Margo Stevenson turned our attention to one of the most dramatic incidents in the Gospel of John: Jesus' washing of the feet of his disciples at the Last Supper. She placed this narrative within the very intimate context of Jesus' farewell to his disciples, in which he gave them an example of what they also should do. She explored two interpretations of the foot washing. The first interpretation views the foot washing as a symbol of the sacrificial love of Jesus, a love that was only fully understood by the disciples later, for he as teacher and master washes the feet of his students - a dramatic role reversal of the usual relationship of student-teacher and servant-master. The second interpretation points beyond symbol to the actual living of the disciples, to the attitudes of loving service and humility that they were to show in ordinary life. It is clear from the placement and development of this narrative that it reflects an essential part of the Christian message as setting a model of behaviour for the disciples of Jesus.

Our discussion allowed for considerable latitude in learning from each other how we each interpret scripture as a rule of life. The Christian participants were asked many questions about the practical significance of the foot washing narrative, the implied criticism of social relationships, and the example of servant leadership that Jesus embodied. The Vaisnava participants spoke of the transformative quality of practical devotional renunciation. All shared insights on the spiritual power of ordinary life, for example, the special moments of divine grace experienced in marriage and the deep meditation found in preparing food ('a cooking spirituality') that empties the mind. Through this sharing of our rootedness in our traditions, we learned a deeper understanding of devotional service and of a life of loving care. After a delicious Ekadasi meal, we joined in singing traditional Christian hymns and Vaisnava bhajanas.

It has become tradition in this dialogue group that we start the second day by sharing in an experience of prayer together. Father Paul Lee led the group in a prayer that celebrated the 'gifts of the Holy Spirit', the divine gifts of wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord. This prayer ended with a symbol we hold in common, the offering of incense. Anuttama Dasa and Rukmini Dasi then led us in Vaisnava mantras and bhajanas, and Bhaktitirtha Swami taught us from the Srimad-Bhagavatam. There are so many ways in which differing traditions can exclude others in worship, but this group has found a way to promote understanding through sharing an accessible mode of prayer together.

In the context of prayer, dialogue becomes easier - a simple, natural thing to do. John Borelli and Anuttama Dasa had provided documents on interreligious understanding from the Roman Catholic tradition and from ISKCON. These are 'tough texts' because they manifest irreconcilable differences between traditions as much as they speak of dialogue. The Catholic documents included texts from the Second Vatican Council (1965) as well as excerpts from the more recent Ecclesia in Asia (1999). While many of these texts highlighted the distinctive beliefs that set Christians apart, they also highlighted Christian beliefs about the unity of the human race, the links between communion (or solidarity) with others and dialogue, and the mission of Christians to be a witness of God's presence in the world.

Dialogue is 'not simply a strategy for peaceful coexistence between peoples; it is an essential part of the Church's mission' (Ecclesia in Asia, p. 29). The need to enter into lived dialogue with others thus emerges out of the logic of Christian faith itself. We then turned to the ISKCON document 'ISKCON in Relation to People of Faith in God' (ISKCON Communications Journal, June 1999). We had the luxury of some first-hand knowledge of the development of this document among the conference participants. We spent some time discussing the relation between ISKCON and other Hindus, as well as the differences and similarities between ISKCON's beliefs and those of other Hindus. Although the occasion for this text was quite different from that of the Catholic statement, there were similarities between them with regard to the need to understand the convictions that practitioners of both traditions hold with firm faith, and the need to make that understanding the basis for dialogue. Dialogue, openness to others, and a disposition to learn from others - all are impossible without a firm grounding in one's own faith tradition. The terms 'dialogue and mission' are found in the ISKCON document as well; this document reflects a deep awareness of the creative tension between these two aspects of ISKCON's Vaisnava faith. This awareness on the part of Vaisnavas and Christians was present in our dialogue as well. Although we had to break for lunch long before we wanted, we all received a deeper sense of the seriousness of our conversation because it was grounded in candid statements of our differing beliefs.

We promised to meet 'same time, same place, next year' with a focus on texts of 'applied spiritual practice' which show the stages of spiritual development in our respective traditions. It is clear that, as long as Anuttama Dasa and John Borelli call us together, we Christians and Vaisnavas will find a way to celebrate further steps of understanding together. Many thanks are due to Anuttama and John for their leadership and to those ISKCON devotees who provided the food. For the company and the beautiful location and the springtime weather, we have to praise the Lord.

Participants:

Vaisnava: Radha Dasi, Ravindra Svarupa Dasa, Bhaktitirtha Swami, Anuttama Dasa, Hari Dasa, Rukmini Dasa, Anantavirya Dasa, Lalit Agarwal, Yash Malhotra

Christian: John Borelli, Gerald Carney, William Cenkner, Paul Lee, Elizabeth Orens, David Rodier, Margo Stevenson, Erik Swartz, Judson Trapnell, James Wiseman

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